Meek/Meeks Family Y-DNA Project
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Updated 29 Apr 2011

Group A

Go To Group A - SW PA


Group B

Go To Group B - SW PA/Pitt Co.


Group C

Go To Group C - Maryland/Virginia


Group E

Go To Group E - Irish Group

Group F

William Meeks

Group F is defined by the SNP marker R-L193, matching STR markers and the surname Meek(s). R-L193 people are a subset of R-L21 which is a subset of the large group R-P312. The STR marker profile is defined the markers DYS391, DYS447, DYS607, DYS576 and CDY, DYS406s1, DYS534, DYS617, DYS572 and DYS640. DYS406s1 =>11 and DYS617=13 define a subset below L21 and above L193 that has been dated to between 800 and 1200 AD.

It is not known when or where in history the R-L193 SNP first appeared but available research indicates a concentration of people in Scotland before the use of surnames (1200-1400). Members of the Meek/Meeks project can be expected to match other surnames who are L193+. While they may be related any relationship is probably not genealogically significant.

Members in the Meek/Meeks project descend from two or possibly three separate branches of the same family that separated before 1700.

Currently Group F consists mostly of descendants of William Meeks of Virginia. This large family migrated throughout the United States. Also included in the project are members whose family remained in Scotland represented one or more branches of the family.

Ancestors

William Meeks born 1725
          Son: Littleton Meeks born 1766 - Kit #49630 and Kit #68969
          Son: Nacy Meeks born 1768 - Kit #56015, Kit #112756, 120031 and 159743
          Son: Athe Meeks born 1751 - Kit #SMGF1 and Kit #SMGF2

William Meike was born about 1625 in Scotland. He acquired the lands of Fortissat in 1664. Fortissat is in the parish of Shotts, Lanarkshire, Scotland. He died after 1664 in Fortissat, Scotland. He married Elizabeth Cunningham.
          Son: James Meek was born about 1650 in Scotland. He married Jean Clark. - Kit #149725

William Meek was born in Scotland. He died in 1865. He lived in Edinburgh, Scotland and was married to Ann Corbett.
          Son: Peter Meek born 1840. He married Mary Margaret Bertrand. He migrated to Ontario, Canada. Kit #159743

Group F Summary

James and Robert descend from two different sons of Littleton. They have a 37/37 match. They deviate from the group modal on DYS576=20. This may identify descendants of Littleton from the descendants of the other son.

Carroll, Nathan, Bennie and John have paper trails that connect to Nacy. Carroll's results contain a RecLOH event that causes double markers to take on the same value. This situation counts as one mutation event. Therefore Carroll has a genetic distance of 3 from the group modal. This is well within limits to support a connection to the other and they all share a common ancestor.

The two SMGF samples have good paper trails to Athe. They do not test four of the markers used by FTDNA. Therefore the results are incomplete. However, they match the group modal with a distance of 1 or 2. More importantly they both have a 15 in DYS 456 which may define the Athe branch.

Russell is one of two members of the group with a genealogy in Scotland. The connection to the American family is unknown but they were clearly related. Russell's results deviate from the Group F modal by one marker, CDYa=40. This is some evidence that group modal extends at least 100 years before the Virginia family immigrated to America.

Peter is the other member with a genealogical connection to Scotland through Canada. His connection to Russell and the descendants of William Meeks is not known.

Markers that separate the Virginia subgroup from the Scotland subgroup: CDY=38, 41 vs. 40, 41 and DYS641=10 vs.11. More testing of extended markers is needed to better define the two subgroups.

Markers that identify descendants of Littleton from his brothers: DTS576=20.

Markers that identify descendants of Athe from his brothers: DTS456=15.

The two Group F subgroups descendant from a single common ancestor. Whether one descends from the other is not known. Group F clearly has a connection to Scotland. That does not mean that the ancestors did not live elsewhere at different points in time.


Group G

William Meeks

Group G consist of descendants of William Meeks of Greenville, SC. He was born about 1798. This ancestor is sometimes confused with a different William Meeks from Group F who also lived in Greenville. All members of this group are connected genealogically from two sons of William. The unique STR profile has a RecLOH event in marker DYS385. DYS 576=19 identifies one branch of son Miles Meeks' family.

This group has not been SNPs tested but the STR marker profile matches the so called MacWho modal values with a genetic distance of one. This is a Scottish and Irish group with a unique STR profile under the R-L21 SNP marker.


Group 9 - Haplogroup R1b (R-M269 not tested)

Non-Aligned

Ancestors

Andrew Meik was born 1732 Midlothian, Scotland. Some descendants immigrated to Australia.
- Kit #178357
Henry Meek born 1735.
- Kit #163577
William Meek born about 1770 Scotland. He resided in York, England. Descendants immigrated to Greene Co., IL.
- Kit #115251
Woodson Meeks born 1775 Virginia
- Kit #AN3
Isaac Meek born 1790 Virginia
- Kit #48977 & Kit #N13903
Richard Meek born about 1801. He resided Coshocton Co., OH.
- Kit #175102
James Meek born about 1801 England. Descendants immigrated to Peoria, IL.
- Kit #138612
John Meek born 1820 Kentucky
- Kit #70461
Francis E. Meeks born 1878 Ohio
- Kit #N6781
Samuel L. Meeks born 1881 Kentucky
- Kit #28093
James S. Meeks
- Kit #N6553

There is no connection between these members and other members or known groups in the project.


Group 9 - Haplogroup R1a (R-M198 not tested)

Scotland

Thomas Meek was born about 1838 in Scotland. His son George immigrated to Canada and then New York.
- Kit #122452

There is no connection between these members and other members in the project.


Group 9 - Haplogroup E (E-M35 not tested)

Unknown

Henry Meek was born about 1803 in Kentucky. It had previously thought that this member was a descendant of Nathaniel Meek.
- Kit #34649
Andrew Meek Immigrated from Austria about 1850.
- Kit #170656

The 12 marker test results indicate a haplogroup of E. This is a unique in this project and indicates the member is not a descendant of Nathaniel Meek.


Group 9 - Haplogroup I1 Norse (I-M253 not tested)

Families

James Meek born 1796 in Rich Hill, County Armagh, Ireland. He died 18 Jun 1876, Mono Twp., Dufferin Co., Ontario. He resided in Ross Township, Green Co., OH between 1820 and 1830.
- Kit #29748

John Meek was born 1764 Docking, Norfolk Co., England. One branch migrated to Australia.
- Kit #92515, 183550

This haplotype share characteristics which place them in the Norse sub-clad of the I1 haplogroup. Kit #29748 to the other family.

The latter two (92515 & 183550) descend from different branches of John's family. This verifies the unbroken line of this family back to the early 1700's.


Group 9 - Haplogroup I1 AS (I-M253 not tested)

Netherlands

Oene Taekes Meek was born 1710 Netherlands.
- Kit #149091

This haplotype share characteristics which place them in the Anglo-Saxon (AS) sub-clad of the I1 haplogroup.


Group 9 - Haplogroup I2a (I-P37.2 tested)

John Childs was born in 1803. He was known as John S. Meek until he changed his name to John Childs in 1833. He was closely associated with Nathaniel Meek and Basil Meek (Group B).
- Kit #4794

At this point in time the test results do not match any other member in the project.


Group 9 - Haplogroup I2b (I-M223 not tested)

Merrill Meeks was born in 1876. He resided in Grundy Co., TN.
- Kit #166428

At this point in time the test results do not match any other member in the project.


Group 9 - Haplogroup J2b2 (not tested)

Edmund Meeks was born in 1796. He resided in Albemarle Co., VA.
- Kit #166428

At this point in time the test results do not match any other member in the project.