Meek/Meeks Family Y-DNA Project
Discussion

Updated 13 Jun 2010

Group A

Go To Group A - SW PA


Group B

Go To Group B - SW PA/Pitt Co.


Group C

Go To Group C - Maryland/Virginia


Group E

Go To Group E - Irish Group

Group F

William Meeks

Group F consist mostly of descendants of William Meeks of Virginia. This large family migrated throughout the United States. We have the benefit of two samples from the Sorenson Molecular Genealogical Foundation whose member's identity is not public. This group deviates from the R1b1b2 modal values in markers DYS391, DYS447, DYS607, DYS576 and CDY. While the Group F haplotype is fairly close to the R1b1b2 modal the mutations on these markers make it unique enough to identify other people named Meek/Meeke/Meeks who are related.

Ancestors

William Meeks born 1725
          Son: Littleton Meeks born 1766 - Kit #49630 and Kit #68969
          Son: Nacy Meeks born 1768 - Kit #56015, Kit #112756, 120031 and 159743
          Son: Athe Meeks born 1751 - Kit #SMGF1 and Kit #SMGF2

William Meike was born about 1625 in Scotland. He acquired the lands of Fortissat in 1664. Fortissat is in the parish of Shotts, Lanarkshire, Scotland. He He died after 1664 in Fortissat, Scotland. He married Elizabeth Cunningham.
          Son: James Meek was born about 1650 in Scotland. He married Jean Clark. - Kit #149725

William Meek was born in Scotland. He died in 1865. He lived in Edinburgh, Scotland and was married to Ann Corbett.
          Son: Peter Meek born 1840. He married Mary Margaret Bertrand. He migrated to Ontario, Canada. Kit #159743

Group F Summary

James and Robert descend from two different sons of Littleton. They have a 37/37 match. They deviate from the group modal on DYS576=20. This may identify descendants of Littleton from the descendants of the other son.

Carroll, Nathan, Bennie and John have paper trails that connect to Nacy. Carroll's results contain a RecLOH event that causes double markers to take on the same value. This situation counts as one mutation event. Therefore Carroll has a genetic distance of 3 from the group modal. This is well within limits to support a connection to the other and they all share a common ancestor.

The two SMGF samples have good paper trails to Athe. They do not test four of the markers used by FTDNA. Therefore the results are incomplete. However, they match the group modal with a distance of 1 or 2. More importantly they both have a 15 in DYS 456 which may define the Athe branch.

Russell is one of two members of the group with a genealogy in Scotland. The connection to the American family is unknown but they were clearly related. Russell's results deviate from the Group F modal by one marker, CDYa=40. This is good evidence that group modal extends at least 100 years before the Virginia family immigrated to America.

Peter is the other member with a genealogical connection to Scotland through Canada. His connection to Russell and the descendants of William Meeks is not known.

Markers that are different from the R1b1 modal values and thus define Group F: DYS391=10, DYS447=24, DYS607=16, DYS576=19, CDYb-41 and advanced markers DYS463=21, DYS406S1=11, DYS534=14, DYS617=13, DYS572=12, DYS640=12.

Markers that separate the Virginia subgroup from the Scotland subgroup: CDY=38, 41 vs. 40, 41 and DYS641=10 vs.11 needs more testing from a descendant of Littleton.

Markers that identify descendants of Littleton from his brothers: DTS576=20.

Markers that identify descendants of Athe from his brothers: DTS456=15.

The SNP test shows that Group F is in the haplogroup R-L193. This is a relatively small group of people who have similar STR marker profiles to Group F.

The two Group F subgroups descendant from a single common ancestor. Whether one descends from the other is not known. Group F clearly has a connection to Scotland. That does not mean that the ancestors did not live elsewhere at different points in time.


Group 9 - Haplogroup R1b (R-M269 not tested)

Non-Aligned

Ancestors
Isaac Meek born 1790 Virginia
- Kit #48977 & Kit #N13903
Samuel Meeks born 1881 Kentucky
- Kit #28093
John Meek born 1820 Kentucky
- Kit #70461
Francis E. Meeks born 1878 Ohio
- Kit #N6781
James S. Meeks
- Kit #N6553
Joseph Meakes born 1778 England
- Kit #30340
Lindsley Meeker born 1790 New Jersey
- Kit #N38221
William Meeks born 1789 South Carolina
- Kit #123527
Woodson Meeks born 1775 Virginia
- Kit #AN3
William Meek born 1770 Scotland
- Kit #115251

There is no connection between these members and other members or known groups in the project. STR results for Kit #115251 shows a pattern consistent with the R-M222 SNP.


Group 9 - Haplogroup R1a (R-M198 not tested)

Scotland

Thomas Meek was born about 1838 in Scotland. His son George immigrated to Canada and then New York.
- Kit #122452

There is no connection between these members and other members in the project.


Group 9 - Haplogroup E (R-M35 not tested)

Unknown

Henry Meek was born about 1803 in Kentucky. It had previously thought that this member was a descendant of Nathaniel Meek.
- Kit #34649

The 12 marker test results indicate a haplogroup of E. This is a unique in this project and indicates the member is not a descendant of Nathaniel Meek.


Group 9 - Haplogroup I1 (R-M253 not tested)

Irish and Canadian Families

James Meek born 1796 in Rich Hill, County Armagh, Ireland. He died 18 Jun 1876, Mono Twp., Dufferin Co., Ontario. He resided in Ross Township, Green Co., OH between 1820 and 1830.
- Kit #29748

Samuel Meek was born 1790 Docking, Norfolk Co., England. Family migrated to Australia.
- Kit #92515

These two members do not match. However, However, they share characteristics which place them in the Norse sub-clad of the I1 haplogroup.


Group 9 - Haplogroup I1a (R-P37.2 tested)

John Childs was born in 1803. He was known as John S. Meek until he changed his name to John Childs in 1833. He was closely associated with Nathaniel Meek and Basil Meek (Group B).
- Kit #4794

At this point in time the test results do not match any other member in the project.